As you remember, R6G04 firmware version was launched in distant Februrary. Since then, nothing as come out, and we obviously thought Sony Ericsson had yet again stopped supporting one of its expensive high-end smartphones way before what´s legitimate to expect nowadays (compare with Nokia).
Recently though, a rumor appeared over at my-symbian forums regarding a new firmware release for the P1i, version R6H25.
The origin of this info is this thread at uiq3.eu forums, and as you can see, the latest developments are more than interesting: the list of improvements include Opera 9.5 and Flash 3.1, among other meaty stuff, but the firmware is not yet stable and his only being tested internaly.
So, what do you guys think, too good to be true??? Will Sony Ericsson do the right thing, FINALLY??? Anyone out there have access to inside information about this subject???
34 Comments Received
October 13th, 2008 @8:11 pm
i really hope they do… (crossing fingers…)
October 13th, 2008 @10:31 pm
I’m really tired of the same thing over and over again:they stop supporting while we continue buying thei phones.I expect nothing-i didn’t update fw at all on mine cuz it runs fine for me.But they don’t care about us,just about our cash,be realistic!
October 13th, 2008 @10:38 pm
i don´t think people will wait for their new symbian phones (along time from now), at all…even i am considering the 5800 when it comes, something i never whould thought off (choosing a nokia s60)
SE is going down, as i see it, and this requires desperate measures…so if there is someone with half a brain right now at SE…this über firmware makes perfect sense…so, lets wait and see
October 13th, 2008 @11:47 pm
It’s a bit too late for me… I’m still on a P990i and never made the jump to the P1i. I considered it a bit, but figured that Nokia’s S60 offerings were a much better choice for my next phone, especially with their new touch-based phones on the horizon (I’m seriously considering the 5800 as my next phone).
Yah I’d be happy if they released some updates for the P990i (which probably won’t happen), but at this point in time, I don’t think that would change my mind on jumping for the Nokia 5800 when its released (or perhaps some other S60 Feature Pack 5 offering).
October 14th, 2008 @5:23 am
Well I really do hope SE does polish this firmware and releases it (if it does exist)… I would very much like to stick to my P1i for a good while before considering switching to another phone.
SE by releasing a new strong and better firmware should at least be able to redeem itself for the way it has treated UIQ user over the past few years… But here’s me hoping!!!
October 14th, 2008 @10:15 am
Let us see about it (cross finger).
October 14th, 2008 @1:29 pm
if they can do so much on G900i, surely they can port it over to enhance P1i(for my case W960i). i hope to see more… just hoping…
October 14th, 2008 @3:08 pm
Does this mean the W960i would get an update too?
October 14th, 2008 @4:55 pm
i imagine so…
October 14th, 2008 @7:32 pm
This is pretty interesting. If P1 does get the new firmware with those improvements, we can expect the same for the W960, G900 and G700 in their next firmwares.
Its high time we UIQ 3 users got something substantial in return for the not so necessary loyalty that we’ve been showing SE.
Some people may feel otherwise but I somehow still wouldn’t write off SE…I’d prefer to stick with it….there are a lot of changes that are going to be made, the process has already begun. Although its sad that UIQ couldn’t find a place in SE’s books, am hoping SE has learn’t from its mistakes and make the necessary changes in order to be the force it once was.
October 14th, 2008 @7:55 pm
Now that SE is shutting down UIQ, they mustve thought, lets keep the programmers busy till it closes down, by giving them things to do like bringing out another update . (which wouldnt have been a priority otherwise)
Typical SE thinking
October 14th, 2008 @8:02 pm
“typical SE thinking” does not include great firmware updates like this one…that´s what makes it hard to believe.
Unless someone from our readers with access to more detailed info about this comes out and post it, i´m afraid this is only a rumor, a dream. We can imagine it to be true if SE suddently got some people with half a brain on management
October 15th, 2008 @1:09 am
Considering the past, I am not keeping my hopes high. We’ll just have to wait till opera 9.5 comes out officially…although such a firmware will go a long way in reassuring SE’s symbian fans just so that they may be prepared to wait till SE comes out with a SF handset.
October 15th, 2008 @2:16 pm
Is it April’s fools? Already?
October 15th, 2008 @7:38 pm
…would be a dream !
October 15th, 2008 @7:41 pm
We’ll see. Only one week to wait. We’ve nothing to lose.
October 15th, 2008 @7:45 pm
It is a bulls**t, SE stopped developing of P1i, and you can wait as long as possible. Opera would not be on Symbian 9.1 and with UIQ 3.0.
:D.
Maybe it will be won UIQ 3.3 and flash also.
So it is fairytale, about Opera 9.5 and Flash
Wait new devices
October 15th, 2008 @7:58 pm
IT is FAKE. Information were from uiq.eu - topic/thread was closed - because it is unfortunatelly FAKE
October 15th, 2008 @11:32 pm
OndrejC2, we know the thread was closed. It was closed because of lack of real proof, and because the moderator is over-zealous (in other forums, the thread wouldn´t be locked).
However, there aspects on this that give it some credibility (Zed from CellPhoneSoft agress on this):
1 - R6H25 makes sense as a version number;
2 - Opera 9.5 has been shown running on a P1 (this is for your Mastahh), just search this blog. Also, it was confirmed to me by someone from Opera´s Symbian division that Opera 9.5 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR UIQ3
3 - The supposed changelog includes stuff that is too technical for a simple hoax. Who would put “rebuild zam.exe” or “fixed tmp errors” on a “dream” invented list??? Why??? Makes no sense.
4 - There´s the remote possbility SE has hired someone with a brain
5 - The authors of the rumor insist there´s truth behind it, still.
So, all we have to do is wait. One thing i can tell you, Opera 9.5 is for real, and flash also - we already have a version of it running by the way
October 16th, 2008 @3:51 am
It’s a pity S/E discontinues UIQ in favour of Windows Mobile. It’s even more unbelievable, how much effort they put in pushing the X1 to the market (adverts wherever you look). If they would have done so for the P1i at any time, they wouldn’t have to complain about not selling devices. I don’t know a single unsatisfied UIQ user (even though I do not know many).
To let HTC produce handsets and print Sonyericsson on it is definitely not what I have expected from this company. While the P1i was a true S/E phone with S/E hardware and S/E OS, the X1 is a HTC device with M$ OS. I will definitely not buy it. It’s way overpriced as well, if you compare it to the iphone, or other HTC devices. OK, I understand they have to get their advertising costs back in…
October 16th, 2008 @5:05 am
Hahaha,
Have you SEEN the changelog?
It’s a list of things that everyone wants. Nothing to do with operator changes, fixes etc.
That, plus the mysterious EMMA beta area?
Ain’t gonna happen people, given the list on the changelog I can’t believe anyone fell for this.
Tim
October 16th, 2008 @11:24 am
Opera 9.5 on UIQ 3 is definitely possible… In fact, opera 9.5 was demonstrated using the P1i. Now why would they show Opera 9.5 on a phone that won’t support it… common sense.
Even if the new firmware wouldn’t be available, I’m still guessing that Opera 9.5 will be released as an installer that supports UIQ 3.
But in all honesty, i still wish that this new firmware would be available for us P1i users. I’m waiting & hoping…
October 16th, 2008 @1:40 pm
Yaa we all r waiting for the updatess… SE WILL DO IT… <<>>
October 16th, 2008 @2:19 pm
Actually, it makes no sense to me. The last we’ve seen is February 08 and since then, tehy’ve launched a lot of phones,including UIQ.They moved on.
As a user, I don’t really care that they’ve droped development on P1i. I have it for almost 2 years now and it’s working awesome. It stable and fast, even with an old, old FW. They don’t support it anymore? So what? What did SE to improve my phones over the years. I tell you:nothing. After updating a new set of bugs would appear, some even worse.
We have Flash now thanks to modding. Opera 9.5? I’ve tried it on an Omnia and didn’t make any impression. Zooming is not my thing on a tiny 3 inch screen. Mobile view is so much better.
So…I didn’t update and I think I won’t. I don;t wanna start all over bu installing again 80 apps.
October 16th, 2008 @3:58 pm
>>1 - R6H25 makes sense as a version number;
Not hard to make up a valid version number. R7H54 or Hardware version R1B. Adds no weight to arguement.
>>2 - Opera 9.5 has been shown running on a P1 (this is for >>your Mastahh), just search this blog. Also, it was confirmed >>to me by someone from Opera´s Symbian division that Opera 9.5 >>WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR UIQ3
Of course it has, but I still very much doubt we’ll suddenly all get it for free with a magic FW update. Why would SE do this? It makes little business sense.
>>3 - The supposed changelog includes stuff that is too >>technical for a simple hoax. Who would put “rebuild zam.exe” >>or “fixed tmp errors” on a “dream” invented list??? Why??? >>Makes no sense.
What kind of a “fix” is “Rebuild zam.exe” - It explains nothing. “Fixed tmp errors” is also as vauge as possible. It seems very obvious to me these are made up by the hoax creator to add some techincal weight to his hoax. Think about it though, what do those tell the end user, or even a technical person? They’re NOT technical in the slightest, they’re vauge statements. Designed to fool.
Technical would be “Rebuild zam.exe to stop possible signalling channel errors with some Eastern European operators”
>>4 - There´s the remote possbility SE has hired someone with a >>brain
I’ll give you this one.
>>5 - The authors of the rumor insist there´s truth behind it, >>still.
When have hoax authors ever insisted their hoax DOESN’T have truth behind it? This isn’t a valid arguement.
Tim
October 16th, 2008 @5:14 pm
Tim, like i said, Zed from CellPhoneSoft, also considered t here were enought hints for something real (maybe)
And the “list” doesn´t pretend to be an actual changelog, its stuff the guy that is getting the info remembered.So YES, “rebuild zam.exe” is something too technical for an hoax, and does mean something for people in the know (zam.exe contains the stanbdy pluggins AFAIK)
Finally…this would make ALL BUSINESS SENSE. Nokia as done stuff very similar by making huge feature upgrades to the n95 classic, more than one year after its release. Sony Ericsson HAS NOTHING to offer to its Symbian UIQ userbase on the short medium/term. No Symbian device will be announced soon. What will most P1/W960 and even G700/G900 do soon, when they want to upgrade to another symbian phone???? There´s nothing from SE…so it would make all the sense to revitalize those phones enough for people to wait untill they are in conditions of announcing and releasing their first s60 v5 smartphones
I know what i will probably do…buy a 5800…unless something like this does happen
October 16th, 2008 @6:26 pm
Ahh, well I missed the fact the posted changelog was just someone’s remembering of the real changelog.
That does make things a little more believable.
I really hope SE do this, just knowing them I have no faith they will.
Fingers crossed!
October 17th, 2008 @2:37 pm
No new posts for a long time…
October 17th, 2008 @7:44 pm
“Finally…this would make ALL BUSINESS SENSE. Nokia as done stuff very similar by making huge feature upgrades to the n95 classic, more than one year after its release. Sony Ericsson HAS NOTHING to offer to its Symbian UIQ userbase on the short medium/term.”
As you know, SE has shown very little firmware upgrades for their (discontinued) phones. What any of their competitors common practice is has little influence on that. Besides that, SE has plenty to offer to their UIQ userbase: Xperia, G900 or any other phone which they are very happy to sell you.
If you want to predict the future, it’s best to look at the past. If we do that it is more likely for Nokia to release an update for UIQ than it is for SE.
October 18th, 2008 @3:50 am
The only logical thing that makes sense to me is they are desperate to hold on to their uiq fan base before the last uiq device is launched.
people who buy and use Windows mobile, wont necessarily opt for a UIQ device (tremendous apps &hacks for WM and better compatibility with PCs , plus once u are used to an OS, hard to change)
A few of us will come back to UIQ from WM, but its only those who loved UIQs simplicity, not the avg user whos used WM, he will still go back to newer WMs
So a simple consumer behavior studty mightve told SE that the only way to keep thier existing UIQ userbase (and hence potential users of new UIQ device) happy, might be a F/W update, plus it also keeps (soon to be excess?) staff busy.
As I write this, I cant help thinking if its wishful thinking, would SE really care about UIQ 3 after UIQ3.3 with G900? Nah
It just might be that someone got their hands on beginnings of a newer unreleased firmare that was being tossed around after the last official update, but never got finalised as the staff were sacked
But then hey, I do sincerely wish thered be an update!
October 19th, 2008 @2:33 am
I hope they do it soon…or i am getting a new phone
(fingers crossed)
October 20th, 2008 @2:11 am
check this one guys
http://www.opera.com/download/mobile/?man=Windows+Mobile+5.0+Pocket+PC&ver=9.51b1uiq&heading=Opera%20Mobile%20UIQ&img=/img/products/mobile/platform/951b1.gif&extra=Supported%20phones:%20SonyEricsson%20P1,%20W960,%20G700%20and%20G900%20-%20Last%20updated:%2020.10.2008
October 20th, 2008 @7:13 pm
Hmm.. Maybe something will come up at the Symbian show. [crosses fingers]
Sony Ericsson, if you keep us in your hearts I’m pretty sure that we’ll want to consider buying your products in future. I’ve only owned Sony Ericsson phones, but now I’m considering to move over to HTC or Blackberry for my next. Please don’t make me move from your fantastic phones.
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