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Eskimo
March 27th, 2008 @4:21 pm  

Will i be able to run this on the P1i.If so were can if get it.

René Brunner
March 27th, 2008 @6:02 pm  

Nice, but it nags me a little that I cannot find something surprising. This is solid evolution of a good platform, but can’t we have a little revolution added to the mix, some little “Wow!” feeling ;)

I confess that I don’t have a good idea for such a little piece of revolution right now, but then I am also not a company with hundreds of employees with plenty of potential to come up with something…

nipsen
March 27th, 2008 @6:07 pm  

Whether the version will be available on the p1i would be up to Sony Ericsson, of course. So no.

Here’s to hoping there is such a thing as a phone- manufacturer with some amount of talent, a bit of dedication, a sliver of strategic intent, and minimal technological awareness, coupled with any level of understanding when it comes to structured, object- oriented solutions.

Anyone? I’ll buy that phone in an instant.

ares
March 27th, 2008 @6:13 pm  

Nipsen i will be happy enough if we get opera mobile 9.5 :)

Seems pretty much equivalent to s60 v3 fp2 don´t you guys think? AFAIK, both are based on symbian 9.3

And UIQ4 should only be presented in the end of the year…

nipsen
March 27th, 2008 @6:14 pm  

including new APIs such as SQL.

btw, ^ that’s the wow- thing, right there. The other thing is, presumably, using widgets to create the standby- screen.

nipsen
March 27th, 2008 @6:27 pm  

Well, ares, I still feel like we’re being ripped off, you know. And not just on UIQ. It seems that we have a real choice between buying a phone that’s “supported” - meaning it’s full of phone- manufacturer and telecom attempts to sell you bad quality ten second music clips for $5 a piece. And between buying a cleaner platform, in a scenario where the phone- manufacturer has no intention of ever touching the phone again after the initial release, no matter how necessary that is.

Neither of those approaches seem to be geared towards actually selling phones, rather than piss people off, is all I’m saying.

ares
March 27th, 2008 @6:33 pm  

I have no big hopes regarding big updates, considering the past…however, i really am enjoying my P1 alot, specially by using some great 3rd party apps with it…however i do believe we will get opera 9.5

Regarding support…AFAIK, we will get 2 more firmware updates for
P1 and W960…can´t be only bug corrections, there are not alot of bugs anymoe…we shall see…

Dunks
March 27th, 2008 @7:28 pm  

Still no mention of true VOIP capabilities which the Nokias & Blackberries have as part of the OS. Personally Id like to hook my UIQ device into my PBX without third-party battery draining software.

nipsen
March 27th, 2008 @8:00 pm  

Sure. 3rd party programs that would also work on a partially(?) updated core UI. Or a new UIQ phone altogether.

Andrew
March 27th, 2008 @8:01 pm  

I know the phone industry has, in the past, refused to upgrade software, and just said “if you want new features, buy a new phone.” In the past this made sense.

However, I believe that the P1i represents a new era. At last we have a phone that is not maxed out on day one, and actually has the resources to support an upgrade path.

I for one, (and I am as mean as anyone) would be prepared to pay a small amount to upgrade to a newer OS version. Hell, I’d pay $20 to have PROFILES on my P1i!!!! (Although, I am also consulting my lawyer as to whether the lack of profiles constitutes “goods not of merchandisable quality” under the sale of goods act.)

Paid OS upgrades would bring Symbian as much revenue as new licences to the phone manufacturer as selling a new phone. It would also increase the life of the phone, which would save the planet, and increase resale value, which would enable a larger number of people to justify buying a very expensive phone in the first place, SE would probably gain more sales than they lose. Resale value is crucial to cost of ownership of cars. I know several people who consider resale value when choosing a smart phone. I personally consider the expected life of the phone as a key factor when selecting a new one.
I dumped WInCE in direct response to its lack of upgrade path. I will surely commit to a phone line whose OS updates give it a three year life instead of one year.

The phone operators all want us to sign 18 month or 24 month contracts - are they willing to push for a phone with a long supported life as an incentive to induce the valuable business customer to sign up for longer plans? Lets hope so!

Andrew
March 27th, 2008 @8:05 pm  

Dunks asks for VoIP - I’d like to have DECT. Imagine being able to use your lovely Smartphone as a cordless phone while at home, instead of that awful piece of junk that you get from Comet!

Or perhaps we need a gadget that connects to the landline, and does VoIP over BlueTooth?

nipsen
March 27th, 2008 @11:02 pm  

The phone operators all want us to sign 18 month or 24 month contracts - are they willing to push for a phone with a long supported life as an incentive to induce the valuable business customer to sign up for longer plans? Lets hope so!

What, and change their profit- margins and calculations? But there’d be mayhem, everyone would be laid off, the prices would be quadrupled, technology would degenerate back to the stone- age, and we would all be eaten by the Midgar- Snake. And we can’t have that, can we?

SuperInggo
March 27th, 2008 @11:17 pm  

Whats the use of UIQ 3.3 if no handset is planned to support in within a reasonable time?

ares
March 28th, 2008 @12:01 am  

You are sooo wrong…hint…next SE announcement…soon ;) And next Motorola annoucement (next week)

makr
March 28th, 2008 @12:10 am  

But when will that next SE announcement be? I surely hope that they would just offer all the new stuff in the next firmware upgrade… More like a service pack 2 upgrade to the P1…

adox2525
March 28th, 2008 @12:46 am  

@nipsen

Midgar-Snake lol

I wonder how many got that quality joke?

razec
March 28th, 2008 @9:20 am  

I certainly hope SE “Shiho” will utilize this. UIQ 3.3 fits shiho alot when in the software side imo like the MSA API, Opera 9.5, widgets etc :)

werty
March 30th, 2008 @1:25 am  

Ares: And UIQ4 should only be presented in the end of the year…

That really cracks me up, wasn’t the 2 last versions of UIQ (UIQ 3.2 and UIQ 3.3) suppposed to be UIQ 4 already?
And by “supposed” I mean rumored by people who apparently have no trustable source or insight within UIQ.

In the past years we have seen genuine phone leaks (names, and specs), but I don’t remeber seeing a rumor about UIQ ever being true.

So, while I really appreciate the effort and enjoy the conspiracy theorie as much as any other cultivated guy, I won’t hold my breath for any announcement that is not coming from UIQ.
Although those guys are not very vocal and frustratingly never tell you what is coming until it’s actually here, there is one think I have come to trust: the deliver new versions and updates regularly, and the phones are spout out at a constant flow.
They only problem we are all well aware of, is the bad marketing done by SE and Moto.

To sum up, I’m very happy to see a new UIQ is out (only 2 month after the last one) with what is seems some promising new features, I expect the phones announcements soon (it always happens like that), and I know there will be more in a few months, wheter it’s UIQ 4 or 3.17, it doesn’t matter, since no one as a clue of what it holds.

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